Don't Eat Poop! A Food Safety Podcast

🍽️ Francine and Matt are building a global, fun, and inclusive Food Safety Family! From the C-suite to the kitchen, they’re making safe food the norm everywhere.
👉 Follow Francine and Matt on LinkedIn for more food safety insights and updates.

In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine are talking about some very high, but also very preventable, costs: those resulting from foodborne illnesses.

Our hosts are unpacking the Cost Estimates of Foodborne Illnesses data for 2023, released by the USDA in December 2025. You'll learn the real cost of diseases such as Salmonella, Norovirus, Listeria, Botulism, and more.

In this episode:
0:03:38 Norovirus: largest number of cases
0:08:54 Salmonella: greatest overall cost
0:11:19 E.coli, Botulism, Vibrio: surprising numbers
0:13:07 Listeria: fewer cases, deadly costs
0:23:10 How to get buy-in for food safety initiatives

Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.

Resources from this episode
Read the Marler Blog article Matt and Francine refer to in this episode.

Check out Francine's QSR Magazine 2018 article on the cost of foodborne illness.

Catch up with Episode 144 | Apparently, a Little Salmonella in Poultry is Okay. But Should It Really Be?

Also listen to Episode 122 | Listeria’s Lasting Damage: A Food Safety Wake-Up Call

Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“ You have an easier chance of getting a one on a roll of a dice than surviving Listeriosis. It is like one in three, one in four, depending upon the outbreak. So you have a 25% to 33% chance of death when you get Listeriosis. Not good.” – Matt Regusci

“ Those are the things that people don't think about. They see these numbers. These are numbers on our screens at this point. People see numbers, and they hear statistics [but] these are human lives.” – Francine L Shaw

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👉 Follow Francine and Matt on LinkedIn for more food safety insights and updates.

In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine are back from their quick holiday break and are ready to tackle the brand-new 2026 food pyramid.

With their special brand of humor, they walk through each of the four iterations of the visual American dietary guidelines over the years and what they mean for Americans.

In this episode:

0:00:00 Holiday break update and misplaced keys
0:11:07 The 1992-2005 food pyramid and its impacts
0:17:21 The confusing 2005-2011 MyPyramid
0:19:37 The 2011-2026 MyPlate (not actually a pyramid)
0:23:28 The 2026 upside-down food pyramid
0:34:32 Will this change how people eat?

Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.

Resources from this episode
Catch up with Episode 146 | Seriously, Don’t Kill Your Loved Ones During the Holidays, where Matt talked about his dread over traveling with his entire family over the holidays.

Check out Frank Yiannas' LinkedIn post with the evolution of the food pyramid over time.

Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“ I do not disagree with this new pyramid. It's basically my diet. What I do disagree with is [that] it doesn't make it easy for someone to look at this and go, 'Oh, this is how I am supposed to eat.' There's nothing really easy about it.” – Matt Regusci

“'0 5 to '11 looks like they just took the colors of the rainbow, tossed them together in a mountainous type setting, and threw a bunch of food at the bottom of it.” – Francine L Shaw

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Remember to subscribe, rate, and review the podcast on your favorite podcast platform. Together, we can raise awareness and make a positive impact in the world of food safety!

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🍽️ Francine and Matt are building a global, fun, and inclusive Food Safety Family! From the C-suite to the kitchen, they’re making safe food the norm everywhere.
👉 Follow Francine and Matt on LinkedIn for more food safety insights and updates.

In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine are joined by produce safety veteran Humberto Maldonado, the Director of Safety and Compliance at Organically Grown Company, straight from the Food Safety Consortium 2025.

Humberto shares lessons from his 20+ years in produce safety. Starting out with the 2003 Hepatitis A green onion outbreak at the beginning of his food safety career, to his time at Driscoll's Mexico navigating auditors and growers, and his newer role.

Get ready for an episode packed with food safety wisdom and practical ways to build a culture of food safety from the field all the way to the C-suite.

In this episode:

0:00:00 Audits and certifications at Driscoll's Mexico
0:10:29 The 2003 Hepatitis A outbreak in green onions
0:16:17 Beyond audits to a good culture of food safety
0:25:48 Humberto's work at Organically Grown Company
0:29:57 Food safety culture from field to C-suite

Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.

Resources from this episode
Read about the 2003 Hepatitis A Outbreak Associated with Green Onions here.

Learn more about the Organically Grown Company.

Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“One of the pushbacks I always received was, 'This is too complex for the growers to understand. This is too complex for the harvest crew people to understand.' That's not true. We are the ones making things complex. You can explain complex things in a simple way, so keep it simple.” – Humberto Maldonado

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Remember to subscribe, rate, and review the podcast on your favorite podcast platform. Together, we can raise awareness and make a positive impact in the world of food safety!

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🍽️ Francine and Matt are building a global, fun, and inclusive Food Safety Family! From the C-suite to the kitchen, they’re making safe food the norm everywhere.
👉 Follow Francine and Matt on LinkedIn for more food safety insights and updates.

In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine are talking about some even more frustrating news on the FDA's traceability rule, FSMA 204.

Back in April of 2025, the implementation of the rule was pushed off yet again, giving the food industry 2.5 years to become fully compliant.

Everything changed after the longest government shutdown in US history, though, because the new funding bill blocks FMSA 204. That's, unfortunately, expected, since some of the senators who ended the stalemate received funds from food industry lobbyists.
Tune in for a breakdown of the current situation with US food traceability.

In this episode:

0:00:00 Food traceability policies are being gutted
0:11:17 Who's behind the death of FSMA 204 and why
0:17:54 Why food traceability is extremely complicated
0:23:38 Politicians, integrity, and helping people
0:30:27 What will happen with FSMA 204
Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.

Resources from this episode
Read the Marler Blog article Matt and Francine refer to in this episode.

Listen to Episode 148, where we talk about the huge increase in hospitalizations and deaths from foodborne illness.

Catch up with Episode 109 from April 2025, where we questioned whether or not FSMA 204 would ever actually be implemented.

Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“ I think [FSMA 204 is] dead. I think there's going to be some companies that are going to do it, but without the government's push to do this, it will not happen across the board, which means it won't happen.” – Matt Regusci

“ So, let me tell you what I love about this. The National Restaurant Association, they make all their money promoting and advocating for food safety. That's how they earned all that money that they donated to lobby against it.” – Francine L Shaw

We hope you enjoy this episode!
Remember to subscribe, rate, and review the podcast on your favorite podcast platform. Together, we can raise awareness and make a positive impact in the world of food safety!

Share your thoughts and feedback on the show, and feel free to offer any topics you would like to hear discussed.

We'd love to hear from you!

📲 Connect with Francine, Matt, and the "Don't Eat Poop!" show on LinkedIn!

📕 Check out Francine's book Who Watches the Kitchen?

🎙️ BE A GUEST ON DON’T EAT POOP!

Fill out this form to tell us more about yourself. We’ll reach out via email within 30 days with next steps if you’re selected.
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Produced by Ideablossoms

🍽️ Francine and Matt are building a global, fun, and inclusive Food Safety Family! From the C-suite to the kitchen, they’re making safe food the norm everywhere.
👉 Follow Francine and Matt on LinkedIn for more food safety insights and updates.

In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine are looking back before they look forward in this new year.

They are unpacking an article from February 2025 that shares some worrisome stats about foodborne illness, outbreaks, hospitalizations, and deaths from contaminated food in 2024, all of which increased significantly from the previous year.

In this episode:

0:00:00 When distances are relative
0:07:07 A recap of food recalls in 2024
0:13:43 Key findings on foodborne illnesses
0:18:06 If you don't test for it, it's not there

Tune back in next week for the episode where our hosts talk about the article on how the government is looking to shut down some key food safety acts and rules.

Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.
Resources from this episode
Read the Food for Thought 2025 article Matt and Francine refer to in this episode.

Correction: chickens fly at 175 birds per minute, not 175 miles per hour, in US poultry processing plants. You can learn more about these worrisome speeds on Episode 110.

As for the acceptable levels of Salmonella in poultry, you can check out Episode 144.

For a Recap of 2024’s Major Outbreaks with Bill Marler, listen to Episode 92, and for one of the major outbreaks from the first half of 2025, catch up with Episode 129.

Hear more about what it's like to get listeria and survive it in the gut-wrenching Episode 122.

Learn the basics of the ByHeart Infant Botulism Outbreak linked to their baby formula, check out Episode 147.

Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“ If we're looking at why 13 [outbreaks] accounted for 98% of the hospitalizations and deaths. It's because 22% of the recalls came from Listeria. That is crazy.” – Matt Regusci

“ It's mind-boggling that they are shutting down food safety programs one after another, agencies, and just different things throughout the course of the year, and foodborne illnesses are increasing.” – Francine L Shaw

We hope you enjoy this episode!
Remember to subscribe, rate, and review the podcast on your favorite podcast platform. Together, we can raise awareness and make a positive impact in the world of food safety!

Share your thoughts and feedback on the show, and feel free to offer any topics you would like to hear discussed.

We'd love to hear from you!

📲 Connect with Francine, Matt, and the "Don't Eat Poop!" show on LinkedIn!

📕 Check out Francine's book Who Watches the Kitchen?

🎙️ BE A GUEST ON DON’T EAT POOP!

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