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• Whole blood, dual shocks and why the AHA still doesn’t get us

  This week on the Inside EMS podcast, Dr. Peter Antevy returns for another round in the hot seat, and he’s not holding back. In this jam-packed episode, he and host Chris Cebollero tackle trending topics in prehospital care — from the expanding role of whole blood and plasma, to the frustrating gaps in the AHA’s 2025 guidelines. You’ll hear real-world success stories (like the cardiac arrest survivor who’s back on the tennis court), why dual sequential defibrillation (DSD) should already be your go-to, and the cost-benefit realities of starting a whole blood program. Dr. Antevy also dives into the science behind glycocalyx damage and how plasma could change how we treat sepsis, TBI and burns in the field. Whether you’re a medic, medical director or just passionate about pushing EMS forward, this episode delivers practical insight, bold opinions and a whole lot of inspiration. Quotable takeaways from Dr. Antevy “The medical establishment does not understand the value of what EMS brings to the table. They don't understand the complexity.” “When we said, ‘We'll do the whole blood,’ what did the surgeons do? They went up in arms: ‘What do you mean you're giving whole blood? Bring them to us. We'll give the whole blood.’ No, no, no. We are part of the chain of survival, too.” “EMS is a subspecialty in the house of medicine. We all need to rise up to make the hospital folks and the academics aware that EMS is important for trauma, for stroke, for pediatrics, for cardiac. We are the ones who can help bring up those outcomes and that's why I love this field.” Additional resources:  AHA 2025 updates are here: Cue the overreactions and the protocol rewrites On-demand: Bringing whole blood to the front lines of EMS Stop the bleed, fill the tank – The New Orleans EMS blood program Whole blood in EMS promises a revolution in resuscitation Enjoying Inside EMS? Email [email protected] to share feedback or suggest a guest for a future episode. 

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• TikTok star Jimmy Apple is challenging EMS dogma with data and kindness

  This week on the Inside EMS podcast, host Kelly Grayson sits down with Jimmy Apple — known as the “EMS Avenger” on TikTok — to explore how he’s challenging long‑standing EMS norms and delivering evidence‑based content at scale. With 22 years in EMS, the pediatric critical‑care paramedic has built a strong digital platform that merges clinical rigor with plain‑spoken commentary. Whether you’re hung up on “what’s new” or “what really works,” this episode offers a spirited discussion, thoughtful commentary and a call to re‑examine what we do — and why. Memorable takeaways “What we learn tends to define who we are as a provider, particularly when the information was learned during our formative years.” “I don’t want to have to spend my time defending a personal position. I would rather talk about how we can guide ourselves based on what we are actually seeing with data that is as objective as we can get it.” Enjoying Inside EMS? Email [email protected] to share feedback and suggest guests for future episodes. 

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• How to lead without being that boss

  Let’s face it — most discussions on leadership sound like someone regurgitating a business best seller. Not this time. In this week’s episode of the Inside EMS podcast, cohosts Chris Cebollero and Kelly Grayson get real about the six leadership habits that actually matter when you're running a shift, a truck or a team that relies on each other not to screw it up.   This isn’t about titles, org charts or leadership flavor-of-the-month. We’re talking self-awareness, collaboration and adaptability — the stuff that separates real-deal leaders from clipboard-holding disasters.   Whether you’re trying to step up or just sick of bad leadership, this episode’s got what you need to lead better — without the cringe. Memorable quotes “What I can't stand in a leader is someone who waffles and is just blown by the wind. I would much rather have somebody say, ‘This is what we're gonna do.’ And then after, ‘Ooh, that was a bad idea. I'm sorry for that. That's on me.’” “If the team's confused, it's not a team problem. It's a leadership problem.” “Leaders who don’t know themselves lead through ego and insecurity.” Enjoying Inside EMS? Email [email protected] to share feedback. 

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• AHA 2025 updates are here: Cue the overreactions and the protocol rewrites

  In this week’s episode of the Inside EMS podcast, cohosts Chris Cebollero and Kelly Grayson dive into the 2025 AHA Guidelines for CPR & ECC and why, for most EMS systems and crews, this feels more like a tune up than a full overhaul. They talk through what is different — like the adult/child choking algorithm change, the inclusion of an opioid overdose response algorithm with public naloxone access, and the shift to a single unified chain of survival across ages and settings. They also talk about what isn’t new (for example, the recommendation that routine mechanical CPR devices are not better than manual compressions), why that matters, and how agencies should frame this for crews and training programs. Bottom line: the changes are real, the work is actionable, but this doesn’t feel like a seismic shift — so use that to your advantage in getting buy-in from providers and avoiding the “huge change panic.” Memorable quotes “They're actually saying now, which I think is pretty cool, that individuals 12 and above can be taught CPR and how to use an AED.” “The key is early CPR and early defibrillation. And if you'regoing to get more bang for your buck, you need to devote your time to bystander CPR training and public AED access rather than buying fancy gadgets that are appealing but may not actually be supported by science.” “I find it interesting that we used to caution against this in CPR class: ‘Don’t give 'em back blows. You may lodge it deeper into the trachea.’ But now, I think they've looked at the data, and back blows are, at the very least, not harmful and may be beneficial.” “For those in leadership: audit all your protocols and training materials now. Find out where your system is aligned or out of step.” Enjoying the Inside EMS podcast? Email [email protected] to share feedback. 

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• Booze, blood and blurred lines: Should EMS play cop?

  This week on the Inside EMS podcast, hosts Chris Cebollero and Kelly Grayson dig into a hot-button issue lighting up EMS forums: DUI blood draws by paramedics. In Vanderburgh County, Indiana, a new program lets fire department medics perform evidentiary blood draws at the request of law enforcement — right on scene, even if the suspect isn’t being transported. Supporters say it’s efficient; critics say it’s unethical.   The hosts share their own history with blood draws in the field and reflect on how their professional philosophies have evolved.   It’s a passionate, no-holds-barred conversation about legal gray zones, moral boundaries, patient advocacy, operational burdens and the blurry line between healthcare and law enforcement.   Spoiler: There’s no easy answer. But if your agency is considering such a program, this episode is required listening. Memorable quotes “My job is to do medical care, period, end of file. Quite often in doing my job, I make the point, ‘Hey, I'm not a cop, man. You can trust me.’” “There's a moral dilemma there. Are we caregivers or are we evidence collectors?” “Even if the laws permitted me to do so for one reason and one reason only, it's very hard to shift from a caregiver mindset to a defensive mindset.” Enjoying the show? Email [email protected] to share feedback or suggest a guest for an upcoming episode. 

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