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  • #76 Lars Stenlund on Driven by Curiosity
    Lars Stenlund co-founded the Swedish firm Vitec Software in 1985. For 35 years, he served as its CEO, and since 2021, he is the Chairman. In this interview, Lars shares his lessons and personal reflections from the journey with Vitec. The basis for our conversation is the book “Driven by Curiosity: Vitec – The First 40 Years”, published in 2025.—————————————Our conversation with Lars Stenlund was recorded on 10 September 2025.—————————————For more info about the podcast, make sure to follow us on X/Twitter. We love to hear your thoughts, so please rate and review us. And feel free to tell us about great authors, books, and investors. Thank you. /Eddie with team—————————————Episode Chapters(00:00) Intro by Eddie(01:18) Welcoming Lars Stenlund(01:41) Growing up and role models (04:05) Study decisions(04:46) About the book “Driven by Curiosity” (08:05) The early days of Vitec (14:29) Organic growth journey(16:16) IPO, failing in Germany, and starting with M&A(17:58) Competitive situation for acquisitions(19:03) SaaS in 1995(21:15) Earnings stability vs. volatility(22:25) How to measure success(24:09) People and decentralization(26:48) Acquisitions in practice (27:32) Funding (29:59) Geographic expansion(30:53) Mistake 1: don’t kill a working software (33:42) Mistake 2: avoid creating a monopoly(35:34) The worst advice Lars ever got(36:07) Transition from CEO to Chairman(37:19) Selecting his successor(38:19) Avoiding group thinking in the board(40:13) Current commitments besides Vitec(41:48) Umeå’s importance for Vitec and vice versa(44:25) Golfing and the relation with Olov, co-founder of Vitec(46:05) Spending habits(47:25) Lessons from decades of technology shifts(51:22) Time horizon on product development(53:12) Curiosity today(54:13) Reading recommendations and one title to avoid(57:52) Concluding remarks—————————————Books MentionedDriven by Curiosity – Patrick SyrénThe Wisdom of Crowds – James SurowieckiGood to Great – Jim CollinsMarionetterna [in Swedish] – Ingrid CarlbergLord of the Flies – William Golding—————————————Companies MentionedBolidenVitec SoftwareKnowitConstellation SoftwareIBMMicrosoft—————————————More on Lars Stenlund & Vitec Software:Company Website: https://www.vitecsoftware.com/en/—————————————About the PodcastIntro episode: https://www.redeye.se/podcast/investing-by-the-books/817383/0-intro-to-investing-by-the-books—————————————What is Investing by the Books?Investing by the Books was founded by Henrik Andersson, Bo Börtemark, Mats Larsson and Michael Persson. It has published hundreds of book reviews in the past 10 years and operates on a non-profit basis. Visit the website: http://www.investingbythebooks.com/Follow on Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/Investbythebook—————————————What is Redeye?Redeye is a research-centered boutique investment bank from Stockholm. Founded in 1999, Redeye cultivates investors through timeless knowledge, a humble attitude, and a strong focus on quality. Visit the website: https://www.redeye.se/Follow on Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/Redeye_—————————————DisclaimerNotice that the content in this podcast is not, and shall not be construed as investment advice. This information is meant to be informative and for general purposes only. For full disclaimer, visit Redeye.se
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  • #75 Adnan Hadžiefendić & Oddbjørn Dybvad: The Compounders
    Fund managers Adnan & Oddbjørn from REQ Capital discuss their brand new book, The Compounders. The book highlights the journeys of nine companies from Sweden, North America, and the UK that have been exceptional compounding machines.—————————————Our conversation with Adnan Hadžiefendić & Oddbjørn Dybvad was recorded on 3 September 2025.—————————————For more info about the podcast, make sure to follow us on X/Twitter. We love to hear your thoughts, so please rate and review us. And feel free to tell us about great authors, books, and investors. Thank you. /Eddie with team—————————————Episode Chapters(00:00) Intro by Eddie(00:53) Catching up with Oddbjørn(01:42) Adnan’s journey into investing(05:10) Overview of The Compounders (06:43) The writing process of the book(08:24) Core principles of compounding(10:10) Serial acquirers vs Compounders(12:18) Metaphor of the African Tree(13:35) Selection of the nine companies in the book(18:39) Surprises during the writing process(21:36) What to avoid(25:17) Long-term survival(27:29) Organic growth (30:41) Investment Philosophy of REQ(32:18) Corporate Governance’s role(34:05) How much should you pay for exceptional companies?(36:00) Building conviction(38:44) Humility as investors(40:51) Avoiding overconfident operators(41:59) Frugality and motivation(44:15) REQ to start a compounder?(45:21) Book recommendations(46:59) Daily life as fund managers(49:27) New book projects? (50:13) Concluding remarks—————————————Books MentionedThe Compounders – Oddbjørn Dybvad, Kjetil Nyland, Adnan HadžiefendićInvesting in Value Creators – Oddbjørn DybvadThe Outsiders – William ThorndikeCreating Shareholder Value – Alfred RappaportBerkshire Hathaway’s Shareholder Letters – Warren BuffettPoor Charlie's Almanack – Charlie Munger, Peter Kaufman—————————————Companies MentionedAddtechAmetekBergman & BevingBerkshire HathawayConstellation SoftwareHeicoIndutradeITWJudges ScientificLagercrantzLifco—————————————More on Adnan & OddbjørnREQ's website: https://req.no/ Adnan’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adnanhadziefendic/ Oddbjørn’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/oddbj%C3%B8rn-dybvad-01575883/ —————————————About the PodcastIntro episode: https://www.redeye.se/podcast/investing-by-the-books/817383/0-intro-to-investing-by-the-books—————————————What is Investing by the Books?Investing by the Books was founded by Henrik Andersson, Bo Börtemark, Mats Larsson and Michael Persson. It has published hundreds of book reviews in the past 10 years and operates on a non-profit basis. Visit the website: http://www.investingbythebooks.com/Follow on Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/Investbythebook—————————————What is Redeye?Redeye is a research-centered boutique investment bank from Stockholm. Founded in 1999, Redeye cultivates investors through timeless knowledge, a humble attitude, and a strong focus on quality. Visit the website: https://www.redeye.se/Follow on Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/Redeye_—————————————DisclaimerNotice that the content in this podcast is not, and shall not be construed as investment advice. This information is meant to be informative and for general purposes only. For full disclaimer, visit Redeye.se
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  • #74 Stephen Penman: Financial Statement Analysis for Value Investing
    In this episode, we have the pleasure of welcoming back Stephen Penman, professor emeritus of accounting and security analysis at Columbia Business School. Stephen has been elected into the Accounting Hall of Fame and is also a distinguished author. We discuss his latest book, in which he shows how accounting helps you, how it doesn't help you, and how to use it when evaluating investments. Stephen also shares his insights on hurdle rates, the development of accounting, and the possible impact of AI.—————————————Our conversation with Stephen Penman was recorded on 18 August 2025.—————————————For more info about the podcast, make sure to follow us on X/Twitter. We love to hear your thoughts, so please rate and review us. And feel free to tell us about great authors, books, and investors. Thank you. /Eddie with team—————————————Episode Chapters(00:00) Intro by Eddie & Martin(01:24) Welcoming Stephen(01:56) Keynote at climate change conference(02:58) Intro to Stephen’s latest book(04:39) Co-author Peter Pope(07:02) Investing by the book(10:03) Cash flow valuation(11:43) Ignore information at your peril (14:49) The required return – a personal matter(19:46) Fantasy thinking(20:18) The hurdle rate of fund managers(22:57) M&A accounting(27:37) Good vs. Bad thinking(30:04) Reverse engineering (33:48) Stephen’s current engagements(36:54) Development of accounting(43:20) Impact of AI on accounting(45:21) Stephen’s own investments(48:30) Book recommendations(52:01) New writing projects(55:32) Concluding remarks—————————————Books & Articles MentionedFundamental Statement Analysis for Value Investing – Stephen Penman & Peter PopeAccounting for Value – Stephen PenmanA Proposal for Goodwill Accounting – Stephen PenmanExpectations Investing - Michael Mauboussin & Alfred RappaportBooks about the enlightenment – Smith, Hume, BakerBooks by Anthony Trollope—————————————More on Stephen PenmanBook website: https://www.penmanpope4value.com/ Papers at SSRN: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=15046 Columbia Business School: https://business.columbia.edu/faculty/people/stephen-penman LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephen-h-penman-80004628b/ —————————————About the PodcastIntro episode: https://www.redeye.se/podcast/investing-by-the-books/817383/0-intro-to-investing-by-the-books—————————————What is Investing by the Books?Investing by the Books was founded by Henrik Andersson, Bo Börtemark, Mats Larsson and Michael Persson. It has published hundreds of book reviews in the past 10 years and operates on a non-profit basis. Visit the website: http://www.investingbythebooks.com/Follow on Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/Investbythebook—————————————What is Redeye?Redeye is a research-centered boutique investment bank from Stockholm. Founded in 1999, Redeye cultivates investors through timeless knowledge, a humble attitude, and a strong focus on quality. Visit the website: https://www.redeye.se/Follow on Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/Redeye_—————————————DisclaimerNotice that the content in this podcast is not, and shall not be construed as investment advice. This information is meant to be informative and for general purposes only. For full disclaimer, visit Redeye.se
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  • #73 Klaus Kleinfeld: Leading to Thrive
    Klaus Kleinfeld has been the global CEO of two Fortune 500 companies – Siemens and Alcoa. In this episode, we have the pleasure of discussing his book 'Leading to Thrive', where Klaus shares his lessons from heading big organizations, but also on how to live a good life.Our conversation with Klaus Kleinfeld was recorded on 24 July 2025.For more info about the podcast, go to the episode page and make sure to follow us on X/Twitter.We love to hear your thoughts, so please rate and review us. And feel free to tell us about great authors, books, and investors. Thank you. /Eddie with team—————————————Episode Chapters(00:00) Intro to Klaus Kleinfeld(01:06) Welcoming Klaus(01:32) Growing up in Germany(03:50) First job and the perception of money(08:47) How “Leading to Thrive” came about(11:26) Part 1: Mastering the inner game(17:46) Managing energy as a leader(22:30) The misconception of work-life balance(25:10) Part 2: Mastering the outer game(27:21) How Klaus became CEO of two Fortune 500 companies(31:17) The dynamics of Boards(38:23) The role of a leader(41:03) Advice for analysts & investors when speaking to management(43:18) Klaus’ current engagements (47:19) Future ambitions(48:58) Book recommendations(51:30) Concluding remarks—————————————Books MentionedLeading to Thrive – Klaus KleinfeldWinning – Jack WelchThe Five Dysfunctions of a Team – Patrick Lencioni—————————————Companies MentionedAlcoaSiemensOmni-Biotic—————————————More on Klaus KleinfeldWebsite: https://www.leading-to-thrive.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/klauskleinfeld/—————————————About the PodcastIntro episode: https://www.redeye.se/podcast/investing-by-the-books/817383/0-intro-to-investing-by-the-books—————————————What is Investing by the Books?Investing by the Books was founded by Henrik Andersson, Bo Börtemark, Mats Larsson and Michael Persson. It has published hundreds of book reviews in the past 10 years and operates on a non-profit basis. Visit the website: http://www.investingbythebooks.com/Follow on Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/Investbythebook—————————————What is Redeye?Redeye is a research-centered boutique investment bank from Stockholm. Founded in 1999, Redeye cultivates investors through timeless knowledge, a humble attitude, and a strong focus on quality. Visit the website: https://www.redeye.se/Follow on Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/Redeye_—————————————DisclaimerNotice that the content in this podcast is not, and shall not be construed as investment advice. This information is meant to be informative and for general purposes only. For full disclaimer, visit Redeye.se
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  • #72 Alex Morris on Hit Refresh
    Alex Morris, founder of TSOH Investment Research, shares his insights from Microsoft’s CEO Satya Nadella's book 'Hit Refresh.' We discuss the importance of empathy in leadership, cultural transformation, and finding your edge in equity research.Our conversation with Alex Morris was recorded on 16 June 2025. After four great years, this episode marks the last one with Niklas as co-host. Eddie will continue Investing by the Books podcast with the same steadfast ambition: to invite masterminds to discuss books that help us think, invest, and live better.For more info about the podcast, go to the episode page and make sure to follow us on X/Twitter.We love to hear your thoughts on what you like and what we can improve, so please give us your rating and a review. You’re also very welcome to tell us about great authors, books, and investors you want to hear on the show. Thank you! /Eddie & Niklas with team—————————————Episode Chapters(00:00) Intro and Farewell to a Co-Host(01:45) Welcoming Alex Morris(04:06) Transitioning to ‘Hit Refresh’(05:54) Satya Nadella as an Author(08:56) Satya Nadella's Leadership Style(10:53) Exploring the Concept of 'Hit Refresh'(15:38) The Significance of Succession in Leadership(17:30) Cultural Transformation in Microsoft(19:10) Incentivizing Change: Lessons from Nadella(21:57) Leadership Vision(23:22) Microsoft's Three Tech Bets(26:49) Researching Large Caps(29:33) The Science of Hitting(34:19) Fixed Mindset vs. Growth Mindset (Netflix Example)(37:35) Alex’ Investable Universe(41:05) Active Research Techniques(43:08) The Future of Equity Analysts(45:57) Buffett and Munger Unscripted(49:33) Exploring Other Book Ideas(51:21) Influential Figures in Investing(54:29) Concluding remarks—————————————Books MentionedHit Refresh – Satya NadellaBerkshire Hathaway Shareholder LettersLessons from the Titans – Carter Copeland, Rob Wertheimer, and Scott DavisBuffett and Munger Unscripted – Alex MorrisThe Essays of Warren Buffett – Lawrence CunninghamOne Up on Wall Street – Peter LynchMy Father's Business – Cal Turner, Jr.One Buck at a Time – Macon Brock—————————————Companies MentionedMicrosoftAmazonDisneyNetflixCava ChipotleDollar TreeFive Below—————————————More on Alex MorrisWebsite: https://thescienceofhitting.com/X: https://x.com/TSOH_Investing—————————————About the PodcastIntro episode: https://www.redeye.se/podcast/investing-by-the-books/817383/0-intro-to-investing-by-the-books—————————————What is Investing by the Books?Investing by the Books was founded by Henrik Andersson, Bo Börtemark, Mats Larsson and Michael Persson. It has published hundreds of book reviews in the past 10 years and operates on a non-profit basis. Visit the website: http://www.investingbythebooks.com/Follow on Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/Investbythebook—————————————What is Redeye?Redeye is a research-centered boutique investment bank from Stockholm. Founded in 1999, Redeye cultivates investors through timeless knowledge, a humble attitude, and a strong focus on quality. Visit the website: https://www.redeye.se/Follow on Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/Redeye_—————————————DisclaimerNotice that the content in this podcast is not, and shall not be construed as investment advice. This information is meant to be informative and for general purposes only. For full disclaimer, visit Redeye.se
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