Deconstructing Mamas

• Walking the Middle Path - Dr. Camden Morgante

  Licensed psychologist and author Dr. Camden Morgante joins us to explore the “middle path” from DBT and how it reshapes faith, nervous-system healing, sexuality, and parenting after high-control religion. We talk about spiritual bypassing versus true healing, pendulation in EMDR, setting wise boundaries, and cultivating a values-based sexual ethic. The middle path costs something. It also grows deep roots.In this episode you’ll hear aboutWhat “walking the middle path” means and why both-and thinking is essential in deconstructionSigns your healing is taking hold: cognitive flexibility, compassion, curiosity, less shameConnection-based parenting and becoming a safe place for our kidsBoundaries that honor your body when rooms feel polarizingSpiritual bypassing vs. embodied, grief-honoring faithEMDR’s pendulation and widening the window of toleranceBuilding a values-based sexual ethic after purity cultureLetting healing be slow, playful, and non-linearAbout our guest Dr. Camden Morgante is a licensed psychologist, coach, speaker, and author of Recovering from Purity Culture. She writes the Substack Walking the Middle Path, helping readers practice both-and thinking in faith and life. She lives in Knoxville, TN with her family.Connect with Dr. CamdenWebsite: drcamden.comSubstack: https://drcamden.substack.com/Socials: @drcamdenBook: Recovering from Purity Culture 

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• The Sacred Fog of the In-Between - Lizz Enns Petters & Esther Joy Goetz

  In this week’s episode, Lizz and Esther talk about the in-between—that blurry stretch between certainty and freedom. We talk about control and compassion, about nervous systems that don’t need theology as much as safety, and about finding community outside the old walls of church.We don’t have tidy answers (we’ve tried those before).But we do have a few anchors for the fog.Anchors for the In-BetweenWhen the old ways of praying, believing, or belonging don’t work anymore—start here:Tree time. Sit under one. Lean against it. Let your breath match its calm.Look up. Sky therapy. A reminder you’re part of something vast and kind.Cozy is sacred. Blankets, warm mugs, soft clothes—small acts of self-compassion that retrain your body to feel safe again.Medicine isn’t weakness. Sometimes your nervous system needs help to unclench. That’s healing, not failure.Rest ≠ avoidance. Rest is recovery. Avoidance is fear. The difference is compassion.A Few Things We Said (and Meant)“God isn’t controlling the universe like a puppet show. Love is still here, and it looks like presence.” “Your body isn’t broken—it’s responding wisely to what’s been too much.” “Use your low beams in the fog. Slow is holy.”If You’re Here Right NowIf you’re not sure what you believe, or where you belong, or if any of this still counts as faith—welcome.You’re not alone.The fog is temporary.And even here, you’re being held by something softer, wider, and more loving than fear ever was.

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• Raising Ourselves - Shelley Robinson

  We sat down with Shelly Robinson, founder of Raising Yourself, for a conversation about parenting on two levels at once. It’s packed with wisdom, humor, humility, and practical tools for those messy moments when your nervous system wants to hijack the show.👇 Here’s what you’ll find inside 👇Certified wellness coach and Raising Yourself founder Shelly Robinson returns to talk about parenting the child in front of us and the one still healing inside of us—inner-child work, humility, co-regulation, boundaries, hormones, rest, and why compassionate presence often beats any script.Sometimes the hardest part of parenting is caring for two children at once — the one in front of us, and the one still healing inside us. In this rich conversation, Shelly Robinson shares how a single “record-scratch” moment shifted her away from fear-based faith and toward reparenting, and how that choice keeps shaping her teens-and-tweens season. We get practical about nervous-system tools in the heat of the moment (“I am safe,” “I want to feel good on the other side of this”), the slow work of tending what gets stirred at each developmental stage, and how sleep, movement, friendship, and boundaries change the energy we bring to our kids. We also name the role of perimenopause, chronic pain, and doomscrolling and why “no wonder” and “that’s fair” are underrated phrases of compassion.You can find Shelly in these spaces:www.shellyrobinson.comHelping Parents Raise Themselves - Raising YourselfExplore Shelly Robinson's unique approach to Reparenting, Gentle and Conscious Parenting. Empower your family journey with insightful resources, expert guidance, and transformative parenting tools. Join the Raising Yourself movement for transformative parenting insights and nurturing a compassionate parenting culture.Instagram: @raisingyourselfFacebook: Shelly Robinson - Raising Yourself

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• Parenting Beyond Fear - Lizz & Esther

  In this week’s episode, we dive straight into the heart of fear-based parenting — where it comes from, how it still shows up, and how we begin to choose something different. We ask ourselves the questions we wish someone had asked us years ago:What were we taught — explicitly or implicitly — about what made someone a “godly” or “good” parent?How did those teachings shape how we viewed our kids — and how responsible we felt for their behavior, beliefs, or choices?Can we name a moment when fear was running the show — and how we see that moment differently now?What helped loosen fear’s grip? Was it a single turning point or a slow, patient unraveling?What does it look like, in this season, to choose connection over control?What fear still lingers — and how do we hold it with compassion now?And if we could write a permission slip to our past selves, what would it say about parenting with love instead of fear?We talk about the messages that shaped us — hell, rapture, sin, “God’s will,” belonging — and how they continue to whisper in the background of our parenting. And we explore what it means to parent our kids with radical trust and unconditional love, even when the old scripts want to pull us back into fear.👇 Here’s what you’ll find inside 👇Real stories of moments when fear tried to take over — and what choosing love looked like instead.Honest reflections on untangling our worth (and our kids’ worth) from their behavior.Practical ways to pause, breathe, and lead with love when control feels easier.Permission to rewrite the story — for ourselves and for the generations coming after us.

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• The Cost of Deconstructing - MK Backstrom

  If you’ve ever stepped away from high-control religion, you know there’s a cost. Sometimes it’s obvious—the loss of community, relationships, or even belonging in your own family. Other times, it’s invisible—the quiet grief of realizing the certainty you once clung to has slipped away, leaving you feeling untethered.This week on the podcast, we’re digging into that cost—naming the wounds, telling the truth about what we’ve carried, and asking what healing really looks like.We’re joined by the hilarious and heartbreakingly honest Mary Katherine Backstrom, bestselling author and viral social media sensation.Mary Katherine grew up the quintessential youth group kid—Bible drills, mission trips, Sunday school answers on speed dial. She was “driving happily down the straight and narrow,” until one day her young son asked: “Will my Jewish best friend go to hell?” That question cracked open everything.What followed was a season she calls her “heresy era”—a mix of doubt, grief, public honesty, and raw storytelling on social media. Her book shares that wild, messy ride: when faith crashes, burns, and somehow—through grace, therapy, and humor—reshapes into something more expansive and real.Here’s what we’ll be talking about:What it costs us to leave high-control religion—both the visible and invisible toll.How humor can become a lifeline in the middle of unraveling.The grief of letting go of certainty and the surprise of finding healing in unexpected places.Parenting after deconstruction: what changes when your kids start asking the questions you were once too afraid to ask.How to break cycles of fear and control so our kids can grow up with freedom, curiosity, and belonging.If you’ve ever felt the ache of losing what once held you—or wondered if the pain is worth it—you are not alone. This conversation is raw, real, and, yes, laugh-out-loud funny.You can find MK Backstrom at the following:Instagram: @marykatherine_authorFacebook: MK BackstromSubstack Newsletter: MK's Substack

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