The Smiths’ Mike Joyce on triumph, gladioli & Morrissey when he was still ‘Steve’
Morrissey and Marr both wrote memoirs but Mike Joyce hasn’t read either, preferring to publish ‘The Drums’, his version of one of the great success stories of the ‘80s, a book about “the beauty we’d given to people – and to ourselves”. At one point he and Andy Rourke shout, ‘Where did it all go right?”. He looks back here at … … the fateful meeting in Geales fish bar when Johnny told them he was leaving – “none of us, not even Morrissey, saw it coming” … the first Smiths rehearsal and impressions of “Steve” the singer … how the songs were written - “we never asked what they meant” … and how they were arranged: “I locked with Johnny like Charlie with Keith, and Andy played a bass song over the top” ... memories of Johnny at X Clothes in Manchester and Morrissey in ‘82 - “funny, dark, so Manc” … the “almost anti-punk” appeal of the Buzzcocks and the urge for a John Maher red Premier drumkit … “Morrissey’s articulacy was both his strength and his Achilles heel” … echoes of Motown and James Honeyman-Scott in Marr’s guitar … “Singers need to feel they’re the most important person in the room” … on-stage gladioli versus “the austerity of the Hacienda” … and Morrissey today - “very angry” - and the legacy of the Smiths. Order copies of ‘The Drums here: https://www.resident-music.com/product/joyce-mike-the-drumsHelp us to keep The Longest Conversation In Rock going: https://www.patreon.com/wordinyourear Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Records that sound unique and why all bands need a backlash
Boarding this week’s giddy carousel of news, we ride the following ponies … … the Sliding Doors moment that made a ‘50s star a fortune … Soft Cell’s Dave Ball and the art of being the Other One in a pop duo … Bohemian Rhapsody, O Superman, I Feel Fine: records that sounded like nothing before them … what links the Prodigy, Wet Leg, Daft Punk and Donna Summer? … how all bands need a bad patch to make you appreciate the good ones … “the concept album is a good servant but a bad master” … Expensive = Reassuringly valuable? Cheap = Worthless? … a new Taylor Swift album in ‘sweat and vanilla-perfumed orange glitter vinyl’, anyone? … and the tricks singers use to disguise the fact that they can’t hit the top notes anymore. … plus ‘the Siege and Investiture of Baron von Frankenstein's Castle at Weisseria’ by Blue Öyster Cult and birthday guest Phil Hopwood on best and worst concept albums.Help us to keep The Longest Conversation In Rock going: https://www.patreon.com/wordinyourear Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Paul Young – “Big in the ‘80s! What lucky bastards we were!’
Paul Young was the bassist in a pub band playing Led Zeppelin and Patto covers ‘til his solo soul and blues slot launched him as a singer. He’s still touring nearly 50 years later, just back from filling Mexican stadiums with Rod Stewart. And next May launching his acoustic ‘Songs & Stories Tour’ in theatres, intercut with film clips and hoary old tales from the battlefield. He looks back here at … … Smash Hits cover shoots and Rewind package tours: “what a glorious time the ‘80s was” … the soul phrases he stole from Free and his impression of “the Paul Rodgers moan” … discovering James Taylor, the Doors, Gregg Allman, Vinegar Joe and Van Morrison … supporting Bob Marley when the crowd threw a dead duck at Joe Jackson – “and hit him!” … Mike & Bernie Winters in panto - “I was rolling in the aisles” … playing Led Zeppelin, Cream and Patto and the Bill Withers and Albert King covers that launched him as a singer … memories of Live Aid – “I wish I’d thought about it more” … “What am I, a performing monkey?” … when Midge Ure told him the opening line of Band Aid had actually been a secret audition – “Simon, Tony Hadley or me” … the “deafening” Slade at Luton Tech, the night the DJ played Black JuJu by Alice Cooper … the over-cranked news story that he’d lost his voice … and the night the Mafia came to Rhode Island. Tickets for ‘Paul Young – Songs & Stories’ here: https://www.awaywithmedia.com/tours/paul-young-2026Help us to keep The Longest Conversation In Rock going: https://www.patreon.com/wordinyourear Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Billy Bragg – 40 years, 2,700 gigs and what he learnt from Taylor Swift
‘Billy Bragg: A People’s History’ is just out, a new and wholly original kind of memoir written by himself, friends, collaborators and fans, and packed with old snapshots, concert bills, reviews and ephemera. It’s very good indeed. He looks back here with us at … … meeting Taylor Swift – “and we both knew who the other was!” … a total of 2,700 gigs – “not counting prisons, In-Stores, Port-A-Stacks and picket lines” … old blokes trying to take selfies … finding old diaries in his archives and sensing how the memory plays tricks … songs that get you out of trouble on stage … bootlegging albums on his reel-to-reel, aged 12, complete with noises off - eg “Bridge Over Troubled Water plus a voice telling me Reach For The Sky was on telly!” … a word-perfect recitation of Mr Tambourine Man … listening to the Lonesome Death of Hattie Carroll when the rest of the school was Glam Rock … buying Ronnie Lane’s amp, “like returning home with a religious relic” … “the power of music”: meeting someone who’d heard him on the radio beyond the Iron Curtain … anxiety about American border control: “I was advised to get a new phone. As if that’ll make any difference. I’m Billy Bragg, political songwriter!” … lost off-grid in Salt Lake City in the days before internet … “Music can’t change the world but it gives you the ability to think it can be changed” …plus Ian McLagan, Desmond Dekker, Ry Cooder, Jam b-sides and Motown Chartbusters Vol 3. Order Billy Bragg: A People’s History here: https://burningshed.com/billy-bragg_a-peoples-history_book https://www.billybragg.co.uk/product/billy-bragg-a-peoples-history-an-oral-history-in-the-words-of-people-who-have-been-moved-by-his-music/Help us to keep The Longest Conversation In Rock going: https://www.patreon.com/wordinyourear Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Mark Kermode tells us stories about music in movies
The Graduate, Trainspotting, Jaws, Star Wars, Citizen Kane – films you can’t picture without thinking of the music. Mark Kermode has been gripped by the marriage of movie and soundtrack since Dougal and the Blue Cat (aged 6) and, with Jenny Nelson, has just published ‘Surround Sound: the Stories of Movie Music’. We talk to him here about… … Scorsese, Cameron Crowe, Sofia Coppola, Edgar Wright: the new generation “who grew up with a headful of not just music, but records” … how John Williams is “the last Whistle Test composer”: two bars of ET, Jaws or Star Wars and you instantly know the film … how “silent cinema was never silent” and his band the Dodge Brothers playing live soundtracks … Butch Cassidy, Easy Rider, Blackboard Jungle … pioneers of the music video … the genius of American Graffiti: “Lucas wanted it so marinated in music the town would sound like a pickle jar” … how scores are recorded and edited and what happens when a director tells an orchestra he’s changed his mind … “by the time each Lord of the Rings soundtrack reached New Zealand, Peter Jackson had re-cut the film” … Forbidden Planet in 1956, the days when electronic scores weren’t real music … Martha Reeves, Jonathan Richman and the Jon Spencer Blues Explosion in Edgar Wright’s Baby Driver … Tarantino’s kitsch use of “his own scratchy vinyl” and why Jonny Greenwood‘s There Will Be Blood is unique and exceptional … plus the “atonal squonking” of the Exorcist and the greatest soundtrack of all time. Order ‘Surround Sound: the Stories of Movie Music’ here: https://www.waterstones.com/book/mark-kermodes-surround-sound/mark-kermode/9781447230564Help us to keep The Longest Conversation In Rock going: https://www.patreon.com/wordinyourear Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Mark Ellen and David Hepworth have been talking about and writing about music together and individually for a collective eighty years in magazines like Smash Hits, Mojo and The Word and on radio and TV programmes like "Rock On", "Whistle Test" and VH-1.Over thirteen years ago, when working on the late magazine The Word, they began producing podcasts. Some listeners have been kind enough to say these have been very special to them. When the magazine folded in 2012 they kept the spirit of those podcasts alive in regular Word In Your Ear evenings in which they spoke to musicians and authors in front of an audience. Over these years they've produced hundreds of hours of material. As of the Current Unpleasantness of 2020, they've produced yet hundreds of hours more with a little help from guests kind enough to digitally show them around their attics such as Danny Baker, Andy Partridge, Sir Tim Rice and Mark Lewisohn. For the full span of the Word In Your Ear world, visit wiyelondon.com. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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