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Phil Wickham catches up with Levi and Jennie fresh off his Song of the Saints tour — the one where God stopped him in his tracks the night before opening night with one question: are you really letting me be Lord of your life? Phil opens up about that surrender, the inflatable rocks that gave him a stage-prop identity crisis, and the audiobook producer who wasn't a believer until eight hours in the studio together. Plus: his new book Everyday Hallelujah, cottage cheese hacks, and a fall tour with Chandler Moore!



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Time Stamps:

00:00:02 – Catching up: the long-overdue reunion and a bearskin rug offer

00:00:48 – The Lusko family's 21-day road trip and the great Chuck E. Cheese letdown

00:06:23 – The question that stopped Phil in his tracks: "Are you letting me be Lord of your life?"

00:08:53 – Why this was his favorite tour ever — plus 16 fall dates announced with Chandler Moore

00:13:16 – Inflatable rocks, Joshua Tree, and a "my stomach drops" stage design story

00:19:22 – World Vision, Jamie McKay, and falling more in love with God's people

00:25:05 – Announcing Everyday Hallelujah — and the "flowers on Sunday" analogy for a stale faith

00:44:44 – Cottage cheese hacks, protein gummies, and the great diet debate

00:54:33 – The audiobook producer who wasn't a believer — until he was

00:58:09 – Fall tour lineup, songwriting with Chandler in Encinitas, and Henry's Father's Day drawing

Dr. Joel Muddamalle is back for round three, and this time he's taking Levi and Jennie into the deep end — demons, the Nephilim, and what the Bible actually says about spiritual warfare. They talk why he's stepping back from viral reaction content in favor of long-form Substack essays, swap travel stories from Ephesus and Crete, and dig into his new book The Unseen Battle: can demons read minds, were the Nephilim real, and is Judas in heaven? Plus: Snickers bars, Nicolas Cage, and a very memorable joke about Indiana Jones.



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Jon Erwin — the filmmaker behind Young Washington, House of David, and Jesus Revolution — joins Levi and Jennie to talk about why he spent a decade obsessed with George Washington before ever picking up a camera. They get into how Washington's worst failures actually forged his leadership, the real bullet holes that shaped his faith, and why Jon cast Andy Serkis (yes, Gollum himself) for the film. Plus: the wild, lifeguard-overwhelming baptism story behind Jesus Revolution and what's coming next from Wonder Project.

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00:00 - Welcome Jon Erwin

02:33 – America's 250th and why this is "an experiment worth believing in"

05:37 – The leadership lesson hiding in young Washington's biggest mistakes

16:02 – Making war feel real without losing the family audience

22:56 – The "divine hand of providence" — Washington's faith, bullet holes, and Cincinnatus

31:13 – Inside Wonder Project's new short-form Bible series, starting with Moses

46:44 – The three unexplainable moments and the mass baptisms behind House of David

He's the son of pastor Stephen Furtick, but Graham built something all his own — a Sunday-night Bible study with four friends that grew into "the living room," a movement so big the cops got called on it. Fresh off graduation, Graham joins Levi and Jennie to talk about walking away from a wrestling scholarship, the "pocket praiser" principle that changed how he worships, and bombing his very first sermon.

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00:00 - Welcome Graham Furtick

00:48 – Why the Glacier hike nearly broke him (and what kept him climbing)

05:19 – How a fizzling middle school Bible study became "the living room"

11:06 – The night 110 teenagers nearly broke through Graham's ceiling

17:35 – Walking away from a wrestling scholarship for an answered prayer

32:05 – The "pocket praiser" lesson that changed how he leads worship

41:28 – His first sermon was a disaster — here's how he found his voice

From Cliffe getting pies thrown at him on a college quad while three-year-old Stuart clung to his leg, to preaching in Boston's red-light district as a seminary student, this episode is equal parts hilarious, theologically sharp, and genuinely moving. Father-son duo Cliffe and Stuart Knechtle — open-air apologists, church planters, and co-authors of Demolishing Doubt — join Levi and Jennie for one of the most wide-ranging conversations the podcast has ever had. Plus: the hardest question Cliffe still gets a flutter about, why miracles aren't actually defying nature, and the reason Stuart's eight-year-old already has Romans 8 memorized.

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Time Stamps:

00:00:00 – Meet Cliffe + Stuart Knechtle

00:05:12 – How a 14-person Bible study above a bar became a church

00:10:06 – Why memorizing scripture isn't obsolete — it's a lifeline

00:15:58 – Miracles don't defy nature — they restore it

00:29:47 – Preaching in Boston's red-light district (the seminary years)

00:43:49 – The hardest questions: suffering, doubt, and where God came from