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What's in the SOSS? An OpenSSF Podcast

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What's in the SOSS? An OpenSSF Podcast
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  • What's in the SOSS? An OpenSSF Podcast

    Big Thoughts, Open Sources: From Upstream to Downstream: Managing Open Source Risk in a Changing Regulatory Era with Vincent Danen

    2026-10-06 | 52 min.
    In this episode of What's in the SOSS’s “Big Thoughts, Open Sources,” host CRob sits down with Vincent Danen, Vice President of Product Security at Red Hat, for a deep dive into the evolving landscape of open source vulnerability disclosure. Drawing on over two decades of open source security experience, Vincent reflects on the history and critical role of the CVE program while addressing modern challenges like the rise of alternative advisory systems and the flood of AI-assisted vulnerability disclosures. The conversation explores the shifting dynamics between upstream maintainers and downstream consumers, the practical utility – and missing user experience – of SBOMs, and how emerging regulations like the EU Cyber Resilience Act impact global software supply chain security. 

    Chapters
    00:00 – Introduction & Open Source Origins
    04:26 – The Evolution of CVE and Vulnerability Data
    11:02 – Coordinated Vulnerability Disclosure in a Fast-Paced World
    17:53 – AI’s Impact on Vulnerability Discovery & Response
    27:20 – Realizing the Value of SBOMs and VEX
    35:05 – Contextualizing Risk and Exploitability
    42:55 – Regulatory Expectations and the Future of Supply Chain Security

    Episode links:
    Vincent Danen’s LinkedIn page
    Red Hat 
    CVE Program
    National Vulnerability Database (NVD)
    EU Cyber Resilience Act (CRA) Information
    Get involved with the OpenSSF
    Subscribe to the OpenSSF newsletter
    Follow the OpenSSF on LinkedIn
  • What's in the SOSS? An OpenSSF Podcast

    Building the Agentic Future with Angie Jones

    2026-09-29 | 19 min.
    In this episode of What’s in the SOSS?, host Sally Cooper interviews Angie Jones, VP of Developer Experience at the Agentic AI Foundation (AAIF). Angie shares her career journey from software engineering and holding 27 patents at IBM to leading open source protocol and developer relations initiatives. She details the mission of the Agentic AI Foundation as a neutral home for governing open source standards and technologies such as the Model Context Protocol (MCP), Goose, Agents.md, and Google's Agent-to-Agent (A2A) protocol. The conversation explores how cross-industry collaboration addresses the reliability and security of AI agents in production, key considerations for the shift toward agentic engineering, and what attendees can expect at the upcoming AgentCon and MCPCon North America.

    Chapters:
    00:00 - Introduction
    00:28 - Welcome Angie Jones
    01:47 - Angie’s Career Journey: From IBM Patents to Open Source
    06:56 - Mission of the Agentic AI Foundation & Governing Open Standards
    11:47 - Preparing for the Era of Agentic Engineering
    13:20 - Preview of AgentCon and MCPCon North America
    17:32 - Rapid Fire Questions
    18:36 - Wrap-up & OpenSSF Resources

    Episode links:
    Angie Jones’ LinkedIn
    Angie Jones’ Blog
    Agentic AI Foundation (AAIF)
    Model Context Protocol (MCP)
    goose: Open source AI agent
    AGENTS.md
    Agent2Agent (A2A) Protocol
    AAIF Working Groups
    AAIF Agentic Commerce Working Group
    OpenSSF AI/ML Security Working Group
    Secure Agentic Framework (SAF)
    Register for AGNTCon + MCPCon North America
    AGNTCon + MCPCon North America: Full Schedule
    Let’s Play the Agentic AI Supply Chain Game! — Sarah Evans and Christopher Robinson (CRob) 
    Workshop: Secure Agentic Framework (SAF) for Agentic AI — Sarah Evans, Jautau “Jay” White, Frederick Kautz, and Laura Guazzelli
    GitHub Octodex: Meet the Octocats
    Linux Foundation Projects
    Get involved with the OpenSSF
    Subscribe to the OpenSSF newsletter
    Follow the OpenSSF on LinkedIn
  • What's in the SOSS? An OpenSSF Podcast

    Securing the Source: Navigating AI Velocity, CRA Compliance, and Dependency Debt with Abby Kearns

    2026-09-22 | 19 min.
    In this episode of What’s in the SOSS, host Sally Cooper sits down with technology executive and ActiveState CEO Abby Kearns to break down the rapidly evolving open source security landscape. Together, they dissect why reactive post-build scanning fails to prevent dependency debt, how machine-speed AI ingestion is overwhelming human maintainers, and what the impending EU Cyber Resilience Act (CRA) mandates mean for enterprise software supply chains. Abby offers actionable insights into why building a "start secure, stay secure" paradigm is essential for modern software pipelines and why open source communities must unite to redefine repository economics in an AI-dominated world.

    Chapters:
    00:00 - Introduction: Sally Cooper welcomes Active State CEO Abby Kearns to discuss AI, vulnerability management, and open source security.
    01:27 - The Limits of Reactive Scanning: Why controlling components at the build source beats post-build scanners.
    04:26 - AI Agents and Ingestion Risk: Managing governance and dependency debt when code moves at automated machine speed.
    07:27 - Regulatory Pressures & The CRA: Preparing for 24-hour vulnerability reporting deadlines and mandatory SBOM provenance.
    11:00 - Upstream Package Repository Economics: Addressing maintainer burnout and the influx of AI-generated PRs.
    14:02 - The True Cost of Exposure: Mitigating enterprise risk across foundational open source language libraries.
    16:27 - Rapid Fire Round: Tux the Penguin, favorite emojis, time travel, and key takeaways for the community.

    Episode links:
    Abby Kearns’ LinkedIn Page
    Active State Website
    EU Cyber Resilience Act (CRA) Overview
    Linux Foundation Projects
    Get involved with the OpenSSF
    Subscribe to the OpenSSF newsletter
    Follow the OpenSSF on LinkedIn
  • What's in the SOSS? An OpenSSF Podcast

    Balancing AI's Double-Edged Sword: Software Engineering, Unlearning, and Ecosystem Sustainability with Mark Russinovich

    2026-09-08 | 56 min.
    In this episode of What's in the SOSS?, host CRob sits down with Mark Russinovich – CTO and Deputy CISO of Azure, as well as Board Chair for the Open Source Security Foundation (OpenSSF) – for a wide-ranging conversation on the changing landscape of software security. Mark shares insights from his journey from Sysinternals to Azure leadership, exploring how generative AI is delivering dramatic productivity boosts while creating new talent pipeline challenges for early-in-career engineers. The discussion dives into the shift toward hardware-backed "what, not who" supply chain identity, the urgent rolling Y2K effort to fix AI-discovered vulnerabilities via initiatives like Accretis, and the reality of persistent AI hallucinations. Finally, Mark details OpenSSF's strategic priorities for package registry sustainability and gives a sneak peek into his personal vibe-coded side projects like Polypost. 
    Chapters:
    00:00 – Sysinternals & Career Journey: Mark reflects on his transition from Sysinternals to Microsoft Azure leadership.  
    02:08 – OpenSSF Board Leadership: Mark outlines his vision and key priorities as the new OpenSSF Board Chair. 
    03:32 – Corporate & Community Alignment: How Microsoft balances its enterprise goals with open source community needs.  
    05:40 – AI's Impact on Software Engineering: Why AI coding shifts developer roles toward architecture, review, and preceptorships.  1
    2:35 – Finding vs. Fixing Vulnerabilities: Managing the rapid race against AI-assisted threats across modern systems.  
    16:07 – LLM Code Quality & Edge Cases: Exploring prompt specification limits and unexpected model behaviors.  
    22:07 – Navigating AI Hallucinations: Why model hallucinations persist despite web grounding and how experts mitigate them.  
    26:34 – Supply Chain: Shifting "Who" to "What": Establishing identity using hardware attestation and confidential computing.  
    30:44 – Machine Unlearning & Model Safety: Mark details his research on targeted unlearning and model alignment experiments.  
    34:06 – Rapid Response & Accretis: Standing up coordinated responses to patch critical open source vulnerabilities.  
    39:39 – Package Registry Sustainability: Securing package repositories and building sustainable funding models.  
    45:44 – Personal Projects & Vibe-Coding: Mark discusses his current AI coding stack, Polypost, and gaming.  
    53:44 – Rapid Fire Round: Quick takes on Emacs, Star Wars, and favorite dystopian robots.

    Episode links:
    Mark Russinovich’s LinkedIn page
    Microsoft Azure
    OpenSSF Guide: Principles for Package Repository Security
    Who's Harry Potter? Approximate Unlearning in LLMs Paper
    HALU Bench: Hallucination Benchmark Research
    SCITT (Supply Chain Integrity, Transparency, and Trust - IETF)
    Microsoft Signing Transparency
    Polypost GitHub
    Polypost WebApp
    Get involved with the OpenSSF
    Learn more about the OpenSSF Governing Board
    Subscribe to the OpenSSF Newsletter
    Follow the OpenSSF on LinkedIn
  • What's in the SOSS? An OpenSSF Podcast

    Navigating the New Era: The EU Cyber Resilience Act Explained with Madalin Neag

    2026-09-01 | 36 min.
    In this episode of What’s in the SOSS, host Sally Cooper is joined by Madalin Neag, EU Policy Advisor at the OpenSSF, to demystify the European Union’s Cyber Resilience Act (CRA). As the tech industry shifts from treating open source as a free buffet to navigating a new era of regulatory liability, Madalin explains how the CRA establishes a horizontal cybersecurity baseline for digital products. The conversation explores the innovative concept of "open source software stewards," the importance of moving beyond passive consumption to active upstream contribution, and why compliance should be viewed as an outcome of good engineering rather than a separate checkbox exercise. Whether you are a manufacturer of smart devices or a volunteer maintainer, this episode provides essential insights into how the CRA will reshape the global software supply chain, encouraging a secure-by-design mindset that strengthens the entire digital ecosystem.
    Chapters:
    00:23 - Introductions and Madalin’s role at OpenSSF
    03:42 - What is the Cyber Resilience Act (CRA)?
    05:27 - The CRA in the global regulatory landscape
    09:05 - Relevance to open source and the "Software Steward" concept
    13:02 - Moving from passive consumption to upstream contribution
    16:20 - Practical steps for organizational readiness
    20:26 - Should open source maintainers be worried?
    24:12 - Insights from the Linux Foundation CRA Readiness Report
    31:32 - What to watch for in the coming year
    34:07 - Rapid fire round and concluding thoughts

    Episode links:
    Madalin Neag’s LinkedIn page
    Cyber Resilience Act - Implementation
    Global Cyber Policy Working Group
    Linux Foundation 2026 CRA Awareness and Readiness Report
    Case Study: Defending the Open Source Supply Chain in a New Regulatory Era
    OpenSSF’s Global Cyber Policy Working Group European Union Cyber Resilience Act (CRA) Information, Resources & Guides Page
    Open Source Project Security Baseline (OSPS)
    SLSA
    Gemara
    GUAC
    OpenSSF Projects
    Understanding the EU Cyber Resilience Act (CRA) (LFEL1001)
    Global Cyber Policy GitHub Repository
    Join us at Open Source Summit and OpenSSF Community Day in Prague 
    Get involved with the OpenSSF
    Subscribe to the OpenSSF newsletter
    Follow the OpenSSF on LinkedIn
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Om What's in the SOSS? An OpenSSF Podcast
What's in the SOSS? features the sharpest minds in security as they dig into the challenges and opportunities that create a recipe for success in making software more secure. Get a taste of all the ingredients that make up secure open source software (SOSS) and explore the latest trends at the intersection of AI and security, vulnerability management, and threat assessments. Each episode of What's in the SOSS? is packed with valuable insight designed to foster collaboration and promote stronger security practices for the open source software community.About Christopher Robinson (aka CRob), hostCRob is a 43rd level Dungeon Master and a 26th level Securityologist. He is a leader within several Open Source Security Foundation (OpenSSF) efforts and is a frequent speaker on cyber, application, and open source security. He enjoys hats, herding cats, and moonlit walks on the beach.
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