Fredrik chats to Dylan Beattie about Rockstar, esoteric programming languages (Perl in latin, anyone?), and what might happen after the AI bubble.
AI will ruin jokes, they can't do things just right. But some things hiding under the label are actually useful as well. Have we been in any similarly strange bubbles before, and what might be left that's useful after it?
Also evolution, revolution, and strange Scrabble facts.
Recorded during Øredev 2025.
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Dylan
Dylan also has a podcast - Tech, bugs & rock'n'roll
Dylan's presentation at Øredev 2025: Rockstar 2.0: building an esoteric language interpreter in .NET
Rockstar
Formal grammar
Esoteric programming languages
Damian Conway
Perl
Perl in Latin - the paper and the module
Latin
Inflectional grammar
Domain-specific languages
Lilypond - Scheme dialect for sheet music
Context-free grammar
Engraving - the art of creating sheet music
codewithrockstar.com
Support us on Ko-fi!
Scrabble
Metal umlaut
Piet - the language which should have been called Mondrian
Piet Mondrian
Mondrian - the undeserving tool
Turing completeness
The Buster Keaton house scene
The dot-com bubble
The subprime mortgage crisis
Enron
Douglas Adams
Three mile island
Windows Vista
Tim Berners-Lee
Solid - Tim's project of holding your data locally
Ellipsis - sponsor of the week: we edit Kodsnack, and we can edit your podcast too!
The emperor's new mind
Quantum computing
Hadamard gate
The linebreakers - Dylan's band of conference speakers
ASML
Titles
Always good fun that one
The version of the story that I tell in the talk
Enough clichés
Resident mad scientist of the Perl community
Felis commidet piscem
Always the cat that is eating
Lexical flexibility
Fundamentally, programming is programming
A big win for everyone
Linguistic conventions and extended alphabets
That's a different letter
Regional assumptions
German ortography
A piece of impressionist art
Hang it on the wall
Something hidden in something else
Physical comedy at its greatest
Money people believe exists
The amount of pretend money
It has to come from reality
Fortunately, I do not have a trillion dollars
Quietly siphoned off
Emotionally flat
What can I steal from?
A little LLM that works for you
A spectacular collapse
A billion lines of crap
Pruning the decision tree
Fix the next milestone in the public consciousness
Five years of excitement, five years of disappointment
Overdue for a little disappointment
Reliant on Dutch technology