Leaving Egypt Podcast

• EP #41 God wants us to be human again - With Samuel Luak

  In this episode Al Roxburgh and Jenny Sinclair talk with Samuel Luak about what it means to be human. Born in Sudan, as a teenager he was confronted with the horror of civil war and experienced the loss of family and the longing for revenge. It was in the midst of hate and death that he came to know the reconciling love of Jesus. Forced to leave his own country, as a refugee he made a new life in Finland and then in the UK. An African Christian living in the West, Samuel is infused with the wisdom of the “we”, bringing a grace-filled countercultural challenge to the individualism that captures the Western imagination. We see its impact: from “having coffee” and the loss of the shared meal to the complete abandonment of our fellow citizens. This is a man whose life exudes the grace of God, whose own journey into love for human beings shapes the ministry he is now leading: the rehumanizing, life-giving exchange between refugees and UK congregations.Samuel is the Leader for Refugee Integration and Discipleship programmes at Welcome Churches in the UK. Raised in the Presbyterian Church in Sudan, Samuel is now a Finnish citizen. A trained lawyer and theologian having studied in Sudan, Egypt, Lebanon, Finland and the UK, he is an ordained minister, and has served as a lecturer and a schoolteacher, as well as fulfilling roles at the Finnish Bible Society, and for the Church Commission for Migrants in Europe. Since moving to the UK in 2017, he has worked with refugees and attends Woodside Church in Bedford, where he is actively involved in intercultural ministry, promoting engagement between diverse communities.LinksFor Samuel Luak:https://welcomechurches.org/https://www.linkedin.com/in/samuel-luak-413476133?originalSubdomain=ukhttps://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=869351222066791&id=100069757641603&set=a.284573637211222For Alan J Roxburgh:http://alanroxburgh.com/abouthttps://www.themissionalnetwork.com/author/alan-roxburgh/https://journalofmissionalpractice.com/alan-roxburghTwitter: https://twitter.com/alanjroxburgh?lang=enFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/alan.roxburgh.127/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thecommonsnetworkBooksJoining God in the Great UnravelingLeadership, God’s Agency and DisruptionsJoining God, Remaking Church, Changing the World: The New Shape of the Church in Our TimeFor Jenny Sinclair:Website: https://togetherforthecommongood.co.uk/from-jenny-sinclairLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jenny-sinclair-0589783b/Twitter: https://twitter.com/T4CGFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/TogetherForTheCommonGoodUKInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/t4cg_insta/ Get full access to Leaving Egypt at leavingegyptpodcast.substack.com/subscribe

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• EP#40 - Wisdom in Disconcerting Times with Adrian Pabst

  In this episode, Al Roxburgh and Jenny Sinclair talk with Adrian Pabst. One of the big needs right now is the ability to comprehend this time of deep change unfolding across the West. Many people across the churches are struggling for some kind of foothold from which they can make sense of what is going on. Adrian provides that foothold, describing simply but profoundly the complexities that confront our societies. Both realistic and hopeful, he sets out a constructive pathway to renewal in terms of a common good political economy. He also proposes ways in which the local church can fulfil its role in this work of repair and rediscover its vocation. For Christians who wonder about what it means to be God’s people in this moment, Adrian offers wise guidance.Adrian Pabst is Honorary Professor of Politics at the University of Kent and Deputy Director of the National Institute of Economic and Social Research. An acknowledged expert in Catholic Social Thought and political economy, he is one of the leading figures in the post liberal movement developing a new politics of the common good. He is the author of several books on this subject, including Post Liberal Politics: The Coming Era of Renewal, and The Politics of Virtue: Post liberalism and the Human Future which he co-authored with John Milbank.Links for Adrian Pabst:https://niesr.ac.uk/people/pabsthttps://www.kent.ac.uk/politics-international-relations/people/2270/pabst-adrianhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/adrian-pabst-4723385/?originalSubdomain=ukhttps://x.com/adrianpabst1?lang=enArticles and recordingshttps://www.newstatesman.com/author/adrian-pabstWhat is postliberalism now?https://togetherforthecommongood.co.uk/leading-thinkers/how-christian-is-postliberalismThe Political Economy and the Good Life: The 2024 Postliberalism Conference (videos)Books:Postliberal Politics: The Coming Era of RenewalThe Politics of Virtue: Post-Liberalism and the Human Future (co-authored with John Milbank)For Alan J Roxburgh:http://alanroxburgh.com/abouthttps://www.themissionalnetwork.com/author/alan-roxburgh/https://journalofmissionalpractice.com/alan-roxburghTwitter: https://twitter.com/alanjroxburgh?lang=enFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/alan.roxburgh.127/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thecommonsnetworkBooksJoining God in the Great UnravelingLeadership, God’s Agency and DisruptionsJoining God, Remaking Church, Changing the World: The New Shape of the Church in Our TimeFor Jenny Sinclair:Website: https://togetherforthecommongood.co.uk/from-jenny-sinclairLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jenny-sinclair-0589783b/Twitter: https://twitter.com/T4CGFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/TogetherForTheCommonGoodUKInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/t4cg_insta/ Get full access to Leaving Egypt at leavingegyptpodcast.substack.com/subscribe

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• EP#39 - The Investment Of Love with Bejoy Pal

  In this episode Al Roxburgh and Jenny Sinclair talk with Bejoy Pal about the relational character of God’s love reflected in the Street pastor movement. Bejoy’s own journey into the Christian faith is a living witness to the value of giving encouragement to the young. His deep love for people has been shaped by being deeply loved in Christ by a series of wise and generous mentors throughout his life. In a time when the lack of community has created a vacuum, when the streets are unsafe, and as the young are tempted to focus on the self, Bejoy is focused on creating opportunities for intergenerational encounter that feel like family. Working across the pastor movements, Bejoy is helping volunteers connect with people in need of Christ-like love and care. His broader vision of the church is of a presence in local communities that brings the transformational message of Jesus’ Gospel through peace, hope, faith and love in concrete ways to those who need to see it, feel it, hear it and know it.Bejoy Pal is CEO of the Ascension Trust, a charity that leads the Street Pastor movement and other pastor movements in the UK. Driven by a vision of a united church, the Trust’s approach is ecumenical in practice, with a minimum of four denominations in any working group. Bejoy has been part of the team for nine years overseeing the schools and youth work within the organisation. As a Street Pastor and a School Pastor himself, Bejoy has been involved in youth work and ministry for many years as well as supporting missions and projects in Moldova and nations across East and West Africa. His spiritual home is Christchurch Purley in South London, where he has been connecting with young people and the local community for over 20 years.LINKSFor Bejoy Pal:Website: www.ascensiontrust.org.ukX - @ascensiontrustFacebook/Meta: https://www.facebook.com/ascensiontrustInstagram: @ascensiontrustofficialYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@AscensionTrustFor Alan J Roxburgh:http://alanroxburgh.com/abouthttps://www.themissionalnetwork.com/author/alan-roxburgh/https://journalofmissionalpractice.com/alan-roxburghTwitter: https://twitter.com/alanjroxburgh?lang=enFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/alan.roxburgh.127/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thecommonsnetworkJoining God in the Great UnravelingLeadership, God’s Agency and DisruptionsJoining God, Remaking Church, Changing the World: The New Shape of the Church in Our TimeFor Jenny Sinclair:Website: https://togetherforthecommongood.co.uk/from-jenny-sinclairLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jenny-sinclair-0589783b/Twitter: https://twitter.com/T4CGFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/TogetherForTheCommonGoodUKInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/t4cg_insta/ Get full access to Leaving Egypt at leavingegyptpodcast.substack.com/subscribe

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• EP#38 - God's Mission In The Rural With Sally Gaze

  In this episode Al Roxburgh and Jenny Sinclair talk with Sally Gaze. Sally is a creative leader in the midst of a church shaped by tradition, wrestling with the question of how to discern God’s directions, particularly in the rural context. Sally describes how forms of mission-shaped life are emerging in the Suffolk countryside. Working with small groups of faithful Christians who are finding creative ways to connect deeply in their local communities, she is inspired by the natural rhythms and practices of farming and gardening, sensing that God is calling the rural church to go with the grain of the natural world.Sally is an Anglican priest, Archdeacon for Rural Mission in the Diocese of St Edmundsbury and Ipswich. Over the last six years, Sally has been Director of the Growing God in the Countryside project, funded by the Church of England Church Commissioners. As part of that she has helped to bring about the Lightwave Community, a charity that fosters small missional groups in rural areas. Over these years Sally has creatively engaged rural parishes in developing mission-shaped ministries. Formerly, Sally was Fresh Expressions Facilitator for the Diocese of Norwich and, in 2017, Dean for Rural Mission Consultancy in St Edmundsbury.LINKSFor Sally Gaze:Mission-shaped and Rural Growing Churches in the Countryside by Sally Gaze and Graham JamesCanon Gaze appointed first Archdeacon for Rural MissionInstallation of Sally Gaze as Archdeacon of Missionhttp://www.lightwave.communityFor Alan J Roxburgh:http://alanroxburgh.com/abouthttps://www.themissionalnetwork.com/author/alan-roxburgh/https://journalofmissionalpractice.com/alan-roxburghTwitter: https://twitter.com/alanjroxburgh?lang=enFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/alan.roxburgh.127/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thecommonsnetworkJoining God in the Great UnravelingLeadership, God’s Agency and DisruptionsJoining God, Remaking Church, Changing the World: The New Shape of the Church in Our TimeFor Jenny Sinclair:Website: https://togetherforthecommongood.co.uk/from-jenny-sinclairLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jenny-sinclair-0589783b/Twitter: https://twitter.com/T4CGFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/TogetherForTheCommonGoodUKInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/t4cg_insta/ Get full access to Leaving Egypt at leavingegyptpodcast.substack.com/subscribe

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• EP#37 A new, yet ancient Christian imagination with Peter Aschoff

  In this episode Al Roxburgh and Jenny Sinclair talk with Peter Aschoff, a teacher, academic and pastor in the Evangelical Lutheran Church in Bavaria. Peter currently serves a congregation in Nuremberg. For many years he wrestled with the question of how the Gospel communicates with those post war European generations who had become disconnected from the church. Peter was part of a network that established what came to be known as the “Emergent” church movement in Germany. Like its counterpart in North America, it sought to plant churches that could address those generations shaped by the postmodern turn in the West.However, having reflected on those experimental years and the changing nature of German society, and following his awakening to the great treasure of traditional Christian spirituality, Peter chose to seek ordination in the state Lutheran Church. In this episode Peter recounts the reasons for this decision, and why he sees ancient practices - in particular Jesuit spirituality - as sources of hope at a time of great unsettling across German society. Peter has a deep conviction about God’s agency in this liminal moment. He believes that in letting go of the defaults to power and management, and by forming small, local communities of hope shaped by contemplative practices, we can anticipate and point to God’s bringing forth new ways of being church.- Links -For Peter Aschoff:[email protected]://www.peregrinatio.nethttps://wild-und-unaufhaltsam.deFor Alan J Roxburgh:http://alanroxburgh.com/abouthttps://www.themissionalnetwork.com/author/alan-roxburgh/https://journalofmissionalpractice.com/alan-roxburghTwitter: https://twitter.com/alanjroxburgh?lang=enFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/alan.roxburgh.127/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thecommonsnetworkJoining God in the Great UnravelingLeadership, God’s Agency and DisruptionsJoining God, Remaking Church, Changing the World: The New Shape of the Church in Our TimeFor Jenny Sinclair:Website: https://togetherforthecommongood.co.uk/from-jenny-sinclairLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jenny-sinclair-0589783b/Twitter: https://twitter.com/T4CGFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/TogetherForTheCommonGoodUKInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/t4cg_insta/ Get full access to Leaving Egypt at leavingegyptpodcast.substack.com/subscribe

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