Air Boss Kellie Hudson tells us how she balances spectacle and safety while controlling intense air show skies.In this episode, Kellie discusses her path from air traffic controller to air boss, managing the airspace over AirVenture Oshkosh, and ramp bossing the Super Bowl. From coordinating warbirds and jet teams to managing emergencies on the flight line, she shares what it takes to keep the skies and ground running smoothly. This one is going to be cool! Resources:Kellie Hudson's Website EAA AirVenture Oshkosh Chapters:(00:00) - Intro
(01:03) - What is an Air Boss?
(02:14) - Balancing Safety and Spectacle
(02:35) - Aviation Beginnings
(03:51) - Controlling From the Tower
(05:18) - ATC Misconceptions
(05:56) - Military vs. Civilian ATC
(07:00) - Controlling the Nellis Air Force Base Tower
(08:46) - Red Flag Exercises
(10:12) - Air Boss Origins
(11:49) - Managing the Airspace
(12:42) - Working at Air Shows
(15:22) - Air Show Risks
(17:08) - Air Bossing Oshkosh
(19:58) - Ramp Bossing the Super Bowl
(21:58) - Air Force One
(22:18) - Ramp vs. Air Boss Roles
(22:56) - Air Show Emergencies
(25:16) - Training
(26:26) - The Future of ATC and Air Boss Roles
(27:06) - Staffing Shortages and Aviation Incidents
(30:18) - Kellie's Advice
(31:43) - Outro
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The Pilot Changing Hollywood Filmmaking - Episode 52
Aerial Coordinator and Stunt Pilot Kevin “K2” LaRosa shares how he brought some of the most complex aviation movie scenes to life.In this episode, Kevin discusses designing and flying the modified L-39 CineJet, filming iconic movies like "Top Gun: Maverick" and "Devotion", and training A-list Hollywood actors. If you’ve seen aerial cinematography on the big screen lately, it’s likely Kevin had a hand in it. Be sure to tune in because there's an exclusive announcement this episode! This one is going to be cool!Want to hear more "Top Gun" stories? Check out Episode 40 with "Maverick" Stunt Pilot Scott "Intake" Kartvedt!Resources:Kevin LaRosa's Website Interview: Kevin LaRosa II, aerial coordinator and lead camera pilot for ‘Devotion,’ on those high-flying sequences (Awards Watch) The Aero L-39 Albatros (Wikipedia)Chapters:(00:00) - Intro
(01:19) - The Unknowns of Aerial Cinematography
(02:41) - Early Interest in Aviation
(04:21) - Designing the L-39 CineJet
(06:10) - A Special Announcement
(07:13) - Filming with the CineJet
(08:48) - Picking the Right Cinema Aircraft
(10:13) - Filming with the UH-60 MovieHawk
(12:03) - A Typical Day on Set
(15:29) - Biggest Filmmaking Challenges
(17:29) - Aerial Training and Rehearsals
(19:35) - Aborting a Shot
(20:16) - Filming "Top Gun: Maverick"
(22:32) - Working With Tom Cruise
(24:06) - Flying Alongside Fighter Pilots
(26:38) - Mentally Preparing for High-Speed Stunts
(28:12) - Training Hollywood Actors
(29:27) - CGI vs. the Real Deal
(30:55) - Kevin's Heroes
(32:56) - Dream Movie to Work On
(33:12) - The Future of Aerial Cinematography
(34:07) - Kevin's Advice
(35:24) - Lacking an Off Button
(36:06) - Outro
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The First Woman Thunderbirds Pilot - Episode 51
Retired F-15 and F-16 fighter pilot Nicole Malachowski tells us about flying 18 inches off the wings of high-speed jets as a U.S. Air Force Thunderbird.Welcome to Season 6 of the Behind the Wings podcast! In this episode, Nicole takes us through her groundbreaking journey as the first woman to become a Thunderbird pilot. She discusses her combat missions, flying in airshows, her WASP connection, and how a tick-borne illness changed her life forever. There is a lot to learn!Resources:Nicole Malachowski's Website Nicole Malachowski's Bio (Wikipedia) The Thunderbirds' WebsiteThe Women Airforce Service Pilots (WASP) (Air Force History Fact Sheet)Chapters:(00:00) - Intro
(01:23) - F-15 vs. F-16
(02:22) - Early Interest in Aviation
(03:26) - USAFA
(04:42) - The Ban on Women In Combat Jets
(06:38) - Flying the F-15 and F-16
(09:06) - Combat Missions
(13:50) - Thunderbirds Admission
(17:58) - Thunderbirds Training
(21:33) - Combat vs. Thunderbirds
(24:02) - Audience Interaction
(27:34) - Tick-Borne Illness
(32:57) - The Wounded Warrior Program
(34:12) - WASP Connection
(36:55) - The Future of Veteran Medicine
(39:21) - Nicole's Legacy
(40:42) - Nicole's Advice
(41:45) - Outro
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Behind the Wings Season 6 Trailer
The Behind the Wings podcast is back with Season 6 and 10 new episodes! Hear stories from one of the longest interned Vietnam POWs, Everett Alvarez Jr., controlling the chaotic skies above air shows with Air Boss Kellie Hudson, and the making of Top Gun: Maverick and Devotion with Aerial Cinematographer and Stunt Pilot Kevin "K2" LaRosa. We've got some incredible stories and guests coming up!New episodes come out every other Monday, starting next week with the first woman Thunderbird pilot, Nicole "FiFi" Malachowski. Subscribe wherever you listen, because this season is going to be cool! We will see you next week for Season 6 of Behind the Wings. In the meantime, check out our past episodes!
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Designing 400 Air and Spacecraft - Episode 50
Legendary aerospace engineer Burt Rutan shares untold stories behind some of the most unique air and spacecraft ever built.In this episode, Burt reflects on a lifetime of aerospace innovation — from working as a U.S. Air Force flight test engineer to breaking records with his homebuilt aircraft. He also discusses stall testing the F-4, Bede Aircraft, the world’s largest airplane, and the Voyager and GlobalFlyer around-the-world flights. This one is going to be cool!Episode 50 marks the end of Season 5 of the Behind the Wings podcast. We'll be taking a short break and will be back later this year with Season 6!Key Takeaways:Burt's love of aviation began when two B-36 bombers flew over his house. He was building airplanes out of balsa wood at the time.After college, Burt started his aerospace career at Edwards Air Force base as a civilian Flight Test Engineer. He worked on the F-4 to test and help with its stalling problems.Jim Bede of Bede Aircraft wanted Burt to help him test and perfect his BD-5. Burt would work with him for two years overseeing test pilots and designs.Burt's passion was to solve departure problems in aircraft. His home builds often had a canard design to help alleviate most spin issues. As of today, he has built 49 aircraft and created over 400 others.Stratolaunch Roc, the world's largest aircraft, was designed by Burt. This twin-fuselage plane is used to test hypersonic flight by launching a vehicle, the Talon-A, from the aircraft's center.Burt's aircraft have several world records including the round the world flights conducted by Dick Rutan in the Rutan Voyager and Steve Fosset in the Virgin Atlantic GlobalFlyer. Steve Fosset flew around the world three times in the GlobalFlyer.Burt thinks the future of aviation is one without pilots. With the advancements of AI and autonomous vehicles, he thinks that future airplanes should be designed without aviator controls.Resources:Burt's Website The BD-5 Stratolaunch's Website Hypersonic Flight Testing (Behind the Wings on PBS)Chapters:(00:00) - Intro
(01:11) - Early Interest in Aviation
(03:03) - Spin Testing the F-4
(05:10) - Testing the XC-142A
(06:54) - Working at Bede Aircraft
(10:07) - Building the VariViggen
(11:57) - The Long-EZ
(13:07) - The World's Largest Airplane
(15:07) - 400 Designs
(16:01) - Flying Around the World in Voyager
(18:59) - The GlobalFlyer's Record
(25:16) - The Future of Aircraft
(27:10) - Life Advice
(28:15) - Outro
Wings Over the Rockies Air & Space Museum has a podcast! Based on our hit YouTube and PBS series of the same name, the Behind the Wings podcast will cover everything from aviation history to the future of space exploration with thought leaders and experts in the industry. This one's going to be cool!
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