Summary:
Chris Hadnagy returns to the podcast to discuss the upcoming Human Behavior Conference (HUBE CON), a unique event blending psychology, neuroscience, and cybersecurity. Hosted in Orlando, FL, the 2025 conference focuses on the theme of "Influence and InfoSec"—with a diverse speaker lineup covering everything from nonverbal communication to neurodiversity in the cybersecurity field.
In this episode, Chris and Tim dive into how the conference is designed to foster deep learning and genuine human connection. They discuss how the sessions go beyond standard talks with hands-on trainings, interactive discussions, and practical takeaways for both cybersecurity professionals and those outside the industry. Chris also highlights how the conference has evolved over the years, the importance of accessibility for introverts, and what attendees can expect from this year's upgraded format.
Chris also shares updates on the Innocent Lives Foundation (ILF), a nonprofit focused on helping law enforcement identify and stop child predators, and touches on cutting-edge work at Social-Engineer, LLC—including new services involving deepfake social engineering simulations.
Discussion Points:
How the Human Behavior Conference bridges behavioral science and cybersecurity
Creating a conference you want to attend
Balancing science and practicality in session content
Building a community for introverts and extroverts alike
Why audience interaction creates stronger learning moments
The expanding role of AI in podcast production and social engineering
A preview of topics and speakers at this year’s HUBE CON
Updates from the Innocent Lives Foundation and Social-Engineer, LLC
Resources Mentioned:
Human Behavior Conference (HUBE CON)
Innocent Lives Foundation
Social-Engineer, LLC
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[RERELEASE] How to deal with the "experience required" paradox
Jerry recently had a blog post on his site (malicious link) titled, "Dealing With The Experience Required Paradox For Those Entering Information Security." It is a wonderful article with actionable items on what people can do to overcome that stipulation on job postings. Jerry is also a co-host for the Defensive Security podcast.
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30:28
[RERELEASE] How to ZAP your websites
Simon is the project lead for ZAP an OWASP Open Web Application Security Project. He has a developer background and originally built the tool to help developers build better applications. The tool was so good that it caught the eye of the security community and is now used by developers, people just getting into security and veteran pen testers. You can follow him on Twitter @psiinon and find out more on the tool by going to the project site on OWASP.
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How Do Ransomware Gangs Work?
Summary:
In this episode of Exploring Information Security, we dive deep into the dark, complex world of ransomware gangs with returning guest Kyle Andrus. Drawing on leaked chat logs, real-world cases, and extensive incident response experience, Kyle helps us understand the internal operations, motivations, and evolution of these cybercriminal organizations.
We explore how ransomware gangs are structured like modern corporations—with developers, access brokers, negotiators, HR, and even customer support. Kyle also shares insights into how these gangs are adapting to legal pressure, sanctions, and the cybersecurity community’s defensive advancements.
Topics covered:
The organizational structure of ransomware gangs
Ransomware-as-a-Service (RaaS) models and profit sharing
Affiliate programs, access brokers, and laundering tactics
The impact of geopolitics on ransomware operations
Creative pressure tactics, including triple extortion and SEC complaints
The role of insider threats and chat log leaks (e.g., Conti)
Use of AI by defenders and attackers
The evolving response of law enforcement and regulation
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Offensive Tools for Pentesters with Chris Traynor
Summary:
In this episode of Exploring Information Security, Tim chats with Chris Traynor of Black Hills Information Security (BHIS) and Ridgeback InfoSec. Chris is a seasoned penetration tester and educator who’s been developing hands-on training that’s grounded in real-world experience. He shares the origins of his “Offensive Tooling” classes, what makes a great pentest report, and how he balances teaching with travel, work, and family life.
Chris breaks down the tooling that matters, how he approaches infrastructure setup for operators, and why he emphasizes actionable reporting. He also talks about the importance of open-source tooling, customizing workflows, and automating the tedious parts of testing. Whether you're just getting into offensive security or are a veteran red teamer, this episode offers insights and practical takeaways.
Topics discussed:
The importance of hands-on offensive tooling training
How to write reports that are actually useful to dev and ops teams
Why pentesters need infrastructure knowledge
Open-source tools, custom scripts, and automation
The challenges and wins of presenting at BSides and beyond
Avoiding burnout while building community and sharing knowledge
Learn more about Chris’ upcoming training opportunities:
Social
Twitter
LinkedIn
Upcoming Events
March 28 security live on https://www.twitch.tv/womaninredpresents
KernelCon April 1-2 teaching my Offensive Tooling for Operators 2-day class
The Illustrated Pentester - Short Stories of Security Vol. 4 April 10
- Past ones...
The Illustrated Pentester - Short Stories of Security
The Illustrated Pentester - Short Stories of Security Vol. 2
The Illustrated Pentester - Short Stories of Security Vol. 3
BSidesHBG April 25
BSidesKC April 26
Possibly BSides Flood City (May 8) and BSides Ft Wayne (June 7) too
ETHOS LAbs Links and Resources:
ETHOS LABS Website
Connect with Tim Folwer on Linkedin
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