In this episode, we hear from Jay, a Colorado native and former U.S. Marine, whose life has been shaped by multiple encounters with something she cannot explain. Her experiences begin in the wide-open ranchlands of southern Colorado, where as a child she came face to face with a massive, shadow-black figure that moved with speed and purpose unlike any animal she had ever seen.
Years later, during Marine combat training in North Carolina, that same presence returns. While standing guard in the middle of the night, Jay watches as a towering figure remains just beyond the fence line for hours—silent, unmoving, and fully aware. No sound. No movement. Just something standing in the darkness, observing.
Then in 2019, during a hiking trip through Mesa Verde National Park, a growing sense of unease follows her every step. Nothing is seen in the moment, yet something feels off the entire time. It isn’t until years later, while reviewing photos from that day, that the full picture begins to emerge. Shapes appear where nothing should be. A figure peeks from behind a tree. Another stands across a canyon. One image suggests something even more unsettling—these things were far closer to the trail than anyone realized.
These encounters span childhood, military service, and family life, unfolding across remote ranchland, active training grounds, and one of America’s most visited national parks. Each moment adds another layer to a story that refuses to fade.
If you’ve ever wondered how close these encounters can get, this is one you need to hear.
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